Wednesday, August 09, 2006

More Australian troops head for Afghanistan

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I'm very glad that the commitment by our allies grows ever stronger.
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8 comments:

Tom said...

"Security beyond Kabul, particularly in the east and south, is the worst since the Taliban fell -- suicide bombings have increased," Howard told parliament.

You know.. if the current administration had simply let the military focus on Afghanistan instead of lying their way into Iraq, maybe it might have turned into a "beacon of democracy" they thought it would. Maybe they would have caught Bin Laden. Maybe it wouldn't be a violent cesspool where heroin production has spiked, the Taliban regrouped, and become yet another blood bath.

Ya.. these extra 150 troups will make all the difference in a country with a population of 39 million, covering 250,000 square miles.

The operation has been botched.

2:53 PM
Gunny John said...

Still clinging to that "Bush lied," ideal? That's right...keep ignoring the FACT that every major intelligence agency in the world reached the same conclusion. Sorry to point out such trivial things....

9:05 PM
Tom said...

Uh.. okay.. so, I find that really strange.

Correct me if I'm misstating your viewpoint here.

We preemptively invaded a sovereign nation for erroneous reasons, but it's okay because everyone else was wrong as well?

The obvious truth is that the "intelligence" was fixed to fit the narrative.

Have you not even seen what the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division, Tyler Drumheller has been saying? Look here:

DRUMHELLER: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy.

That's a CIA chief with no political motivation.

But, because you are a blind authoritarian cultist, you dismiss everything because it contradicts the simple desire to wage war and kill Muslims. Bush/Cheney are your gods, and there is nothing they could do to change your loyalty. They could drink the blood of babies and you would find some way to rationalize it and support it.

So, yes, I'm sticking to "Bush lied", where as you're sticking to "Bush was incompetent". Small distinction, but an important one.

12:08 PM
lord brown mouse said...

straw man argument

3:06 PM
Tom said...

What? He just got done saying;

FACT that every major intelligence agency in the world reached the same conclusion.

3:38 PM
lord brown mouse said...

evidence of straw man argument

"you are a blind authoritarian cultist, you dismiss everything because it contradicts the simple desire to wage war and kill Muslims. Bush/Cheney are your gods, and there is nothing they could do to change your loyalty. They could drink the blood of babies and you would find some way to rationalize it and support it."

Tom - Guilty as charged.

LBM

9:37 PM
Gunny John said...

Now now LBM, don't go confusing tom with common sense and logic....that's not nice.

I didn't say that Bush was incompetent, your words, not mine. Apparently every intel agency in the world was though......or did we just pussyfoot around long enough for all of the unaccounted for weapons to be moved (which was the left's argument to begin with "let the U.N. solve the problem!"? Naw, no chance of that...

10:54 PM
Tom said...

LBM, I explained already what a straw man argument is. It's simply making up an argument, attributing it to your opponent, and then debunking it as if that means you've "won" the argument.

What you've quoted from me in that comment is not a straw man argument. It's an accusation, or maybe an insult. I've drawn a conclusion, and conclusions are a necessary part of an argument. Sorry you can't see the distinction.

2:19 PM

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