Wednesday, August 09, 2006

U.S. Weighs relaxing Cuba immigration

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I have no problem letting some in, but I am under the opinion that we have enough foreigners in this country as it is.

17 comments:

Tom said...

That's because you're a total racist.

You don't like blacks either, do you? I know you don't like the damn Mexicans..

And for the record, many of these "foreigners" are far better Americans than you are. My personal physician is from England, and he's exceptionally bright, educated, and really makes a difference for people. But, then, he's English and white, so that's probably okay.. Right?

lord brown mouse said...

Yeah - North America was founded on Northern European ideals of freedom and culture. The rest of the Americas were founded on Hispanic ideals - just comper the two.

lord brown mouse said...

compare not comper

Tom said...

Uh.. that makes no sense. You're basically saying that Northern European people are "better" or have "more value" than hispanics? Of course by definition, hispanics have a lot of Spanish influence, and Spain is a European country, but it's different because Spain is Southern European?

What about blacks in America then? They're native to Africa - so they are not as desireable as white northern Europeans?

And so Cubans, being Hispanic, should not be allowed to emigrate to the United States as, say, a German or Frenchman?

I mean you are clearly defining yourself as a racist here, so I just want to clarify that.

Rightwing Guy said...

I just dont like foreigners period.
The ones we let in should only be able to make this country better not screw over the system and drain our resources

Tom said...

Hmm.. okay.. less immigration, which means that wages go up, and inflation goes up - and your rent goes up.. Okay.. you're willing to deal with that, I gotcha.

You think there should be some qualification test then? So, we need to employ some psychics that can tell the government whether or not an immigrant is going to make the country better or go on welfare?

Or - how about we require all of the immigrants to have college degrees? Lets make that retro-active to about say, 30 years ago and kick out all the current Americans without college degrees?

How about we base it on their skin color, or how about an IQ test?

What I'm getting at here, is that you're suggestion of only letting in the ones that will make this country "better" is a complete logical mess because you haven't defined the criteria. You cannot define the criteria because there is no objective standard that could possibly be applied.

And the part that I find hysterical, is that I doubt YOU could pass any standard that you want to set for an immigrant.

Law trouble?! Boot - out the door you go. LOL

Rightwing Guy said...

Your just babbeling

lord brown mouse said...

A country can set a criteria if it wishes. How about for a start:

- Limit immigration status to Indigenous Northern Europeans and those of European descent in Australia, NZ and Southern Africa.
- No Muslims
- No Africans
- Any others from South America or Southern Europe to have to have strong evidence of benefitting the USA by being allowed to settle there.

Remember Tom, most countirs in the World arn't multi cultural and multi ethnic - just N America and Europe. You will not find much diversity in China or Pakistan!!

Tom said...

Rightwing Guy said...
Your just babbeling


No.. sorry.. you're argument was an incoherent mess of vague generality.

Is that really how your mind works? You pull some grand notion from out of thin air, and not consider any of the ramifications for that point of view?

The way you make an argument is that you state an objective, you define the criteria, and you analyze the ramifications. Your argument technique is to simply say "I dun like immigrants", uh huh...

For those that did not naturally learn how to form a coherent argument, that's one of the big things they teach you in college - you know, that place you avoided because you didn't need a piece of paper.

140 IQ? Get a grip..

Tom said...

Oh.. and LBM - you're a loon..

Just an F.Y.I., the Attorney General of the United States of America is 2nd generation Hispanic. His family were immigrants, and while I don't agree with his point of view on many things, it's quite apparent his skill set is far more valuable to this nation that most "real" Americans.

lord brown mouse said...

Tom...

To correct you..

More people coming into a country and then getting jobs will generally mean higher rents because of the greater demand.

Simple supply and demand theory.

LBM

Tom said...

What? I said that rent would go up, and then you just corrected me to say that rent would go up?

You don't need to lecture me on economics.

Tom said...

Actually.. let me correct that because I get what you're saying now.. I had said that less immigration would inflate prices, thus rent would go up.. and you said that increased immigration would cause rent to go up due to increased demand..

Prices rarely have one single cause, both inflation and increased demand increase prices.

lord brown mouse said...

Tom

But the biggest pressure on rents will be the number of people (with money) competing for the limited number of rental properties.

Unless of course you destroy more virgin land by building more properties for your foreign friends to live in.

Tom... I make a serious point here... you cannot argue that everyone in the world has the god given right to live in america.

And if you agree with that, why not let in people from countries with similar values and cultures. You can choose!

Me and you know, an Aussie, Brit, German or Dutchman will find it easier to assimilate into american society than a somalian, iraqi or columbian.

As, a Kenyan, Nigerian or Tanzanian will find it easier to settle in Mozambique.

LBM

Tom said...

Because it's racist drivel...

Engineer 3 cubes over from me is a Palestinian, name is Al-Sahhar.. great guy.. fantastic intellect and skill. I'm not afraid of him coming over and trying to kill me - because I'm not a close minded racist asshole.

He hasn't seemed to have had a problem fitting in, because he's like the vast majority of Muslims. Just another person trying make a living and take care of their family.

lord brown mouse said...

It when there's more than just one or two that you get the problem.

Tom said...

LOL